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By: Real Conversations By Real People About Politics « Newscoma

Real Conversations By Real People About Politics « Newscoma — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:29:19 +0000

[...] 19 04 2008 I’ve talked quite a bit about how I wish we were having a more “adult” presidential campaign right now. It makes me cranky listening to all the political rhetoric [...]

By: archcrone

archcrone — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:58:57 +0000

I’ll weigh in for just a moment. As much as folks and the media are saying this was an honest speech, I was not swayed. I do not trust Obama, and haven’t trusted him since his senatorial campaign.
AS to Obama’s oratory skills:
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=15379

As it realtes to the race and gender issues: http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/03/7708_obama-feminism-wright-flap.html

By: jessicalpl

jessicalpl — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:04:26 +0000

I agree, everyday of our lives from the basically the moment we are born, we are all subjected to “preaching”. Be it an actual preacher, parents, teachers, the news, etc, we are constantly exposed to others’ opinions or views. That does not mean we have to make them our own. I think that it takes someone who can think for oneself to be able to stand and say, that they do not agree with nor take another’s words as their own.

nice job here. i enjoyed the post.

By: newscoma

newscoma — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:45:54 +0000

Barry, did you not read the post?
I wrote something else out and deleted it because I just couldn’t do this tonight. Realized that we are always going to be A-Okay on Lost and theater but a bit different on politics.
I don’t agree with the men who have been my preachers on many things. They teach me the language of God, but I don’t always agree or vote with them.
They are politicians, Clinton, Obama, McCain…
They all have character flaws.
All of them. They are human.
Politicians as well.
I try to be fair. I’m don’t agree with Wright’s soundbites but I also want to be treated as an adult.
The point of my post.

By: Barry

Barry — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:26:48 +0000

What do you believe, of those 3 options I presented?

By: newscoma

newscoma — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:55:03 +0000

That’s cool, Barry. At least we all are having a conversation.

By: Barry

Barry — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:46:13 +0000

*sigh*

I can’t move over to that side. I’ve listened to him, tried to see the character behind the candidate but I’ve just become too jaded with politicians to believe anyone whose risen to the level of running for president to actually be honest about themselves and their true values and beliefs.

How do you reconcile Obama having spent so much time in Wright’s church without knowing he had such deep-seated animosity? I think of my preacher at my church – I’ve only known him for about a year now, and I can only imagine how it would shock me if he started publicly saying things like “Damn America”, etc – much less knowing him for 20+ years. There are only two explanations I can think of: either Obama actually agrees with what Wright believes, or he’s completely white-washed his friendship and participation in the church for political reasons – again, for 20+ years! He worked the church’s position and turned a blind eye to the preachers true beliefs to further his career.

I guess a third possibility, and one that I’d like to believe, is that Wright suddenly became cynical and racist overnight or at least over a short amount of time and it’s as much a shock to Obama as it is to us.

So that’s why no matter how sincere he sounds, I can’t get beyond that possible couple of huge character flaws…

By: Ron

Ron — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:59:06 +0000

If Hillary wasn’t busy trying to get Michigan and Florida to count despite both states breaking the rules, I think she’d be in the front of the Obama-bashing chorus. I have no doubts she’s bending the ears of superdelegates in private, to try and stay out of the mess.

By: Frank Strovel III

Frank Strovel III — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:43:02 +0000

I was inspired by the speech (I also had to sit and watch it uninterrupted and un-analyzed) but then again I was inspired by an episode of “Celebrity Rehab” the other day. I’m easy that way.

I just know that if this were Hillary cozying up a Rev. Wright type and not Obama, the WORLD WOULD COME TO AN END AS WE KNOW IT and her Republican critics would be tripping over themselves to get in front of a camera and blast her for it.

By: Q

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:18:46 +0000

Obama’s New Found Friend
I watched Barack Obama’s speech Tuesday on race and politics in America, and I am now officially an Obama supporter. I never gave a damn about politics; rarely ever did I vote. I just do not believe a word any politician utters…but that speech did it for me. It was genuine. It was powerful. More importantly, it was all encompassing–he spoke to and for everyone.
We have all heard the “I have a dream” speech and the “four score and seven year” speech, but those are all relics. No public servant of my generation or during my lifetime has ever inspired me like the aforementioned classical speeches…until now. It made me reflect on my own life, my own faith, my own attitude towards people, and my own attributes and flaws. That’s what a speech is supposed to do.
I do not care for Hillary Clinton; she’s just another politician. Until this moment, I had marginalized Obama in much the same fashion. But he has my vote now! If for no other reason than the promise of further inspiring speeches like that one. Imagine a president whose State of the Union address, actually addressed the entire Union…I mean didn’t we all feel that at some point in the speech he was talking to us, or at least to our convictions.
I vow two things. One, I will vote for Obama in the upcoming Pennsylvania primary and urge everyone I can to do the same. Two, if this does not come to pass and Hillary wins the nomination, I will vote for John McCain and urge everyone I can to do the same. Because, I want to experience Obama as President. Hillary is just a regular politician, and bland as butterless toast. She should just concede to the better man and let us all experience the dream. If she is not willing to do that for us all, then she deserves no victory either. We’ve already suffered 8 years of Bush…McCain is just more of the same losing streak. So, I’m placing all my chips on the best hand I’ve seen in years. It’s all or nothing. But I’m not settling for Hillary…I’ve seen Paris and will not willingly go back to the farm. If America is not inspired by Obama, then it lacks the ability to be inspired.
Q

By: newscoma

newscoma — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:58:49 +0000

Thanks guys. You made my morning.

By: jim voorhies

jim voorhies — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:54:50 +0000

Have I told you yet that you rock? Well, you do.